Their fellowship there- and their clichs-their high class restaurant-a place to impress non-believers so they can get saved there and their position of importance was more important than standing up for the truth. Even though Jesus said that all of the OT was about him, you pre mil dispies say no Jesus, there are still outstanding promises to Israel you owe them. Is it like a day or is a day like a 1,000 yrs? 4. How often do you pronounce curses in Gods name? I should not even have put that but I couldnt resist it, him and his 10 million dollar estate. He soon became known for building unique hot rods and in 1977 he opened his own shop, Hot Rods by Boyd, in Stanton, California. I find it ridiculous to blame cheating on power and authority. Thank God we are saved by grace through faith, I understand, my apologies once more to the forum and MLD, how each one wants to handle their feelings in this situation whether with condemnation or mercy is between them and God! How I have seen just over the last two days, about where a person goes for Bible interpretation, will make all the difference. Me and those of my ilk are progressive christians. What are my options if the operation goes wrong? Hes being lauded in many places as admirable for that. Make a one-time donation today for as little as $1. . David Jeremiah was right. For many people, restoration mistakenly means the duration before the erring pastor is behind the pulpit again. Michael said, Who is his congregation? LET IT RIP GIRL!! You didnt have the integrity and honesty to answer my question, and now you want me to answer yours! This website is, usually, dominated by people that hold to one very narrow view of eschatology. You have defended your right to report the story, which I cannot dispute, and have vigorously expressed that those who disagree are killing the messenger or throwing you under the busbut my point was not to indeed do such, but to state that, due to the lives that are affected by this story (his family), and yes, by his sin, which I do not excuse in any way, that it may not have been in good humanity or taste to have reported the story before the church did on April 6. In theology, the pain, regret or affliction which a person feels on account of his past conduct, because it exposes him to punishment. Or was it because he was caught? That doesnt happen unless you do something really bad, not just adultery. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. Someone else may have more info on this subject. So, what about babylons Dread is his theology from Homer Simpson? He said Satan was looking to destroy people .he sure did not take his advice.. Coy black balled a number of people who served and now he is going to know what being black balled is all about..karma comes back on him.. @ Hugh Flynn. A board meeting was called on Thursday in which he confessed and resigned. Because of their public persona, people like us are also passing judgement on her personal life. I just wish I could walk away from everything with millions in my pocket when I get caught. But, if he is restored he will be like Jacob who limped for the rest of his life after he finally won Gods blessing over his life. Trust me friends, the moral failure is not so uncommon amongst leaders and parishioners within our churches and something we should all give deep, hard consideration to in our personal lives. Youre just twisting Acts 2. Well the subject is that is Bob Coy is not fit to be a Pastor because of his sexual indiscretions. And even if complaints arose, Smith's answer was often to give wayward preachers second and third chances. The article noted that in total at least eight pastors, staffers, and volunteers in Calvary Chapel's network in the U.S. have been charged with abusing children since 2010. "I had been invited to his house for Christmas dinner and I skipped it," Coy told Stetzer. I have prayed mightily for Bob, Diane and their two teenage children and I have prayed for all the saints. Hugh, How would you rate the fruit of Coys doctrine? May todays revelations be just one more step in your growth as a person of faith. Stay up to date with the latest Christian news! Thanks for your words. Right, he didnt believe his own Bible studies. The dicey part for this church is that there is a chance that some leadership people knew this was an ongoing problem for years. You have to reject the Old Testament. As I made comment on those who did, others jumpe in and made each a Luther discussion. A man of that importance-you dont think would have been brought before the congregation and prayed off as they have done in the past with others who have left? Though having an affair is the most likely of the possibilities, there is NO factual confirmation of this and anybody reporting it as fact at this point is wrong. The IRS went after Jimmy. Sounds typical. The Bible is inerrant. I absolutely saw folly in my tenure with CC but I walked around that which would block my path, you will experience this where ever you go but please go somewhere to seek understanding. God forgives immediately upon repentence, so are we going to condemn Bob? Coys teaching was always excellent. Abraham the father of the Jewish nation and subsequently the Christian as well was promised a son and became frustrated over time and slept with his wifes servant, regardless of tradition, which lead to the birth of Ishmael an illegitimate child and penalty was that Ishmael would become the father of the Muslim nation. We are all sinners and can do nothing without God. just a question, Michael, you should be able to answer, we all should be transparent, especially you since you are a pastor, you were married right? really? BTW, you might want to be a bit more cautious with the word prognosis, or at least become more informed to the breadth of its meaning. I do wish he had faced the congregation, it would be helpful in the cleansing and restoration process, besides Ive seen him hold people accountable publicly and so should he but thats water under the bridge. The transformation that has taken place is that when I sin there is conviction that takes place reminding me that what I have done or thought is wrong. The fact of the matter is, this doctrine has probably been used by Coy over the years to strike at others. The Peter comparison is not unreasonable. i heart sheck wrote: You judge that we are judging him, when the truth is it was his board who judged him and found him guilty as heck. Sharon is still a strong and encouraging leader for her firefighting unit despite the sadness of losing her daughter in a car accident involving her son Bode. "On April 3, 2014, Bob Coy resigned as senior pastor of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, effective immediately, after confessing to a moral failing in his life which disqualifies him from continuing his leadership role at the church he has led since its founding in 1985," the statement read. Reforming catholicism doesnt work. She works with children! Coy, who was never charged with a crime, lay low after leaving Calvary but recently turned up at Boca Raton's Funky Biscuit, where he helps manage the club. "God is with us all who learn and grow so much from a man who always reminded us he was human and not one is perfect not even Pastor Bob but God gave him a purpose and he did well by God. King David was called to build the temple of the lord much like a Pastor is called to build a church / congregation. He was the multi million dollar big shot who was an actor on stage . Did Pastor Fidel Gomez know anything? Thats worse than not knowing you are doing wrong. As a doctrine, it leads people to follow the antichrist who comes to unite the worlds belief systems. 23 At that time if anyone says to you, Look, here is the Messiah! or, There he is! do not believe it. I just came across this blog and it appears to be hosted by a CCFL attendee. Who killed her? #805 yeah considering that all of MIchaels info is inaccurate. Mark Davis and Clay Hecocks wives were very good friends and I am sure together decided enough was enough from what they knew. Antonio- its not pertinent to dwell on the sin itself and bring out every lurid detail of that sin for your viewing pleasure and for you to dwell in. If you live in the area, you know it is not easy finding a church when you are looking for meat. We believe in one God, the sovereign Creator and Sustainer of all things, infinitely perfect and eternally existing in three Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. I hear the CC folks come on hear and proclaimwell were all sinners and only Jesus was perfect!yet they give Jesus-like powers to their Pastor rock star leaders in the form of the Moses Model where the Senior Pastor has all the power. 11 I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. You must be great at bringing people the Good News. MLD is a long time blogger here and a Lutheran NOT a Calvinist. Coy Randall Gibbs (December 9, 1972 - November 6, 2022) was an American NASCAR driver, assistant coach for the Washington Redskins, and co-owner of Joe Gibbs Racing. The Bible is brutally honest about the failings of the heros of the faith. His congregation will continue to thrive and fight the good fight of faith. He who is true God became true man united in one Person forever. On April 3, 2014, Coy resigned as Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale. The conversation is humorous. see thats where it gets tricky. "He was just transparent, and he could be very funny as well. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they teach., And also with Paul who said in Phil 1:15-18. If your understanding of the Bible has completely isolated you from the greater Body of Christ, it is safe to say you are misunderstanding it. Maybe I can help you with the math 42 months = 3.5 years 1260 days = 3.5 years. Hes aiming for restoration. of course not, youll jump somewhere else. Bob did it. This story broke yesterday morning online before I ever wrote a word. MLD, so Isaiah is the Old Testament, therefore it is invalid. Michael, what is your intention with this? "I was really hurt. We have to consider this each time we place anyone near to or above God. The root of Calvary's problems, critics say, lies in its unique structure. oh yes garbage. The true church is composed of all persons who through saving faith in Jesus Christ and the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit are united together in the body of Christ. Instead you drew a caricature based on his post for your #54 and made anyone reading who might be 300 pounds feel even better about themselves. And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. I am just trying to do better myself. Had a phone call and was ready to continue a bit with RiBo but think it best to set it aside as there are tons of people reading now and also per Michaels request @ 166. When my Bible says that the seven year tribulation will be a time unlike any other time in the history of man and that unless Jesus had come back when he does all life would be cut short, then anything else is garbage! Two thirds of the congregation will be seated already knowing. The blog host has spent the week publishing positive, restorative articles after the news broke. I found it accidentally on Google. The only thing that covers ALL of us who are fallen to begin with is the Blood of The Lamb of God which was shed at Calvary and that covers Pastor Bob right now too ! I have. If not then the whole board and staff needs to repent ( in ways appropriate to their position and level of participation and approval) . To Michael (#646), It isnt the case that the MLK crime scene was unprotected. That is precisely what I was working my way to. By being such a forgiver they make themselves out to be super spiritual, but as that blogger explains..to be spiritual is to know what the scriptures teach about how to handle this kind of situation. That shows you how much they initially pledged. I will pray that your eyes open and that you will not fall into the same trap as we all did before. In 2017, he was accused of sexually abusing a four-year-old girl. "We need to stop him. Please remember the mercy and forgiveness that out Heavenly Father has shown you before you judge or cast stones. Does anyone want to say anything about the women? Clearly some felt the news should come out right away rather than one last sunday morning coverup cum offering and they made sure that is exactly what happened. Which is it? Not one is perfect and we all fall short. I did the change the headline to removed so as not to get caught up in ridiculous minutia. @ 395 I posted a link- Please read it. The church finds her visible, yet imperfect, expression in local congregations where the Word of God is preached in its purity and the sacraments are administered in their integrity; where scriptural discipline is practiced, and where loving fellowship is maintained. . Andy, OK, you go with that but to hold your position you have to call Peter a liar in Acts 2. By sheer volume in the epistles, doctrine is brought up more than moral issues. to clarify, are you saying that Coral Ridge Presbyterian is Jezebel leading Jesus bond-servants astray? I must say that in knowing very little about the build up to this story, it appears that the church took much faster action in dismissing Coy than in the case of Mike Kestler. So here is one for you. In his later days, he began registering cars that were essentially completely custom fabrications as antique automobiles, avoiding major emissions restrictions and tax liabilities. But let me ask this why dont you listen to what the apostles said about this period? And Israel becoming a nation in 1948? Just saying. Evidently the vast reach doesnt include responsibility to inform all those reached. I know a lot of Jews who have self hatred! And I agree with Michael, resigned/fired can be one and the same in the business world. God bless you Ft Laud peeps who drop in. I reject his whole eschatological scheme, so I could care less. Real penitence; sorrow or deep contrition for sin, as an offense and dishonor to God, a violation of his holy law, and the basest ingratitude towards a Being of infinite benevolence. It scares me when I read he should still be the pastor. I have been stating 61 million. The subject was brought up suggesting that church and Flynn was correct in most of his post which addressed those issue. View the profiles of people named Diane Coy. He was already richI. When the Pastor goes to a local college and tacks posters all over on his upcoming Bible study Did Jesus really have s+x? Nobody is perfect. Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. The only one who was worried was Vince. But he declines to share the results of the test, which he says was not done for the police. I love this while trying to mock me Flynn said I myself am a disciple of Jesus, so read what he said not what Luther said:. Really? I am telling them to let him recover his heart, name and honor. 2. He wrote a very good book, I Was Wrong in 1996. http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/78864704043/indexed. 2:10). Please Note wins with best line AND most clever word! If it continues and endures it is Gods church and bigger than any one man to the consternation of the circling vultures of which this website is replete with! I hope that Pastor Bob has not given his wife an STD. 33 Being therefore exalted at the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he has poured out this that you yourselves are seeing and hearing. Why? Sure would make the shame easier to bear.. Did Jesus only die for Christians? I think that was supposed to ease the transition for the new Pastor. He boasted of a vast media reach. These teachings which give rise to anti-Semitism and go against Gods word which says, I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you, then yes that is garbage! Two of my three children still struggle with doubt in their faith and I can not believe our experience didnt have something to do with it. The most disturbing part about many of these posts is the disparate amount of sympathy and even defense for the sinner relative to concern verbalized for his family and the church. 9 For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. We will all disappoint others, we all sin, but Christ will always be there for us and will never let us down. I love my husband and I dont want to be divorced, but when things have been unhappy between us, I have had to literally run away from sin because I was tempted to allow someone else to give me emotional support that should have come from my own husband, but wasnt at the time. But it appears extramarital affairs may have been one reason. Payne had taken his case against Fort Lauderdale Police Maj. Eric Brogna to the Broward County State Attorney's Office, but prosecutors declined to press charges. The next level of givers got to have a dinner with them with more people, the next level got a buffet dinner> The next got a lunch buffet and then some got nothing.. At that time the services were also being displayed live. Thank you. Thank you for the many years you have pastored Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, through your words and Gods grace my husband got saved. Your story sounds credible, about Fidel Gomez. Michael, they always try to make you the bad guybut we know you are clean. I especially loved Pastor Bobs teaching. Just as Peter recovered after his denial of Christ. I know God is not surprised by all this but we all need to get a grip! Beyond that, Ive got absolutely nothing. Well my friends it will not be too big anymore. people need to vent, to be angry, to feel betrayed and to weep. We all sin, but this is heartbreaking. Diane Coy is on Facebook. Michael, We don;t argue we chat from different view points. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amillennialism. Pastor Bob has said time & time again that you dont go to church for him you go to church for a connection to god. This isnt about me, and by making it about me, you bear false witness and sin yourself. The inner circle or big givers got to have dinner with DC and BC. I already annihilated your baptism is required to receive the Spirit thing yesterday, with the house of Cornelius getting the Spirit before baptism. I hope they reconsider that vision in light of his failure. Its interesting Michael has yet to answer the question about his own sins. When we fall, we have to model the humility and fidelity to the Scriptures that we demand they recognize.then model the love, grace, and restoration to the body that proves our complete fidelity. No way around the fallout. May God have mercy, and may God use situations like this to remind all of us just how vulnerable we are when we do that which is right in our own eyes. But the report is true, the blog host reported accurately and now that the rest of the media is reporting the same thing, these voices have quieted down and are left to the long task of relating to a new devastating reality. Let us gather in prayer for the church, the family as well as for Bob that restoration, deliverance be thy restored. If you answered yes to all 7 questions you are a Preterist Scripture denying Calvinist! Neither Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, the movement's flagship, nor the Calvary Chapel Association returned messages from New Times seeking comment for this story. E said, A man posted yesterday on FB that something like 40% of pastors struggle with some sort of sexual sin. Michael Newham, have you ever committed adultery? After the announcement, the congregation had a prayer and worship service. Life now consists of unfair scorn for Diane and the kids. Most of us live in glass houses anyway. We must forgive himit could happen to anyone and remember to watch your words,,,,,,dont ever say you would never do itbecause those who say it..always seem to fall in the area they say they would never God Bless Diane.the children and Pastor Bob and all the Calvary Ft. Lauderdale Families and everyone he affected.. Jessica Hahn was a plant and Bakker was a willing stooge but I still felt bad for him. He may have a scandal brewing with one of his kids, so my little heart cant take this right now. He does need some time out [sorry, lol, seems funny, no pun intended] as he sets himself aside in repentance and prayer as to the Lord, but, sometimes we judge too harshly as if we know all things when it is God who knows all things. Back to our topic But your logic is skewed. Just wanted to validate jlos welcome. When we objectify we act as gods. And this is no strike whatsoever at Coy. Two years later, her family sued Calvary, alleging leaders should have done more to stop Thomas. As someone who has been a casualty of infidelity, such candor and humility helps to answer some of my own long unhealed hurts from that time. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the THOUSAND YEARS were finished. Thats over a half million, not including his church salary, book royalties and possible speaking fees. I said way at the top that Bob Coy can be restored as a brother. As Chris Rock once said, A man is as faithful as his options. Which is the essence of the lordship salvation false gospel. The senior pastor of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale's resignation comes amid reports of an affair scandal and admitting tocheatingon his wife, Diane Coy. I never missed a weekday or weekend service. Coy is friendly and voluble, but his lively green eyes suddenly brim with tears when he's asked about the sexual assault claims. And his sermons have been the same blame the Christian, God is blameless.. stop whining sermons.. for what , 20 years? Bob deserves what ever happens to him and has others said that does not include returning to his post as pastor. RiBo, I hope this will eventually lead to full media exposure of your step-dads alleged molestation of your brother and abuse of you, as well as CCs gross negligence in endorsing him to this day. they will mention Israel 100 times for every mention of Jesus Christ. Is free will not involved in our salvation? That seems to say that if you are have no power and authority then you wont cheat. Explain to me how you could take communion at 3 services and then go bang someone else?? My goodness brothers & sisters!!! How can you trust anyone at calvary anymore after you were lied to by Coy for years.he is disgusting.. To say he was loyal to diane is a joke..his kids will really be affected for ever.. Did he ever once think about his 1000 employees, did he ever once think about his kids, did he ever once think about what he was doing to Jesus or his wife, his family. Mega-churches always have such a high profile for scandal. The Gospel is forgiveness and reconciliation. I stand corrected. She didnt want Vince to have to make the difficult decision of whether to turn off her life support, either. The difference is: Peter had a one-time crisis of faith that was immediately repented of and perhaps more permanently cured by the Resurrection. Share. Krent W. I apologize for my flippant remark to your initial comment at 338. You got that right, MLD is probably 300 lbs., sitting on a big leather sofa eating popcorn as he writes, with three cats purring around him, while his wife yells from the other room, get off the computer and take the trash out as he answers in a moment, I gotta write one more thing, I have no sympathy for adulterers, may they rot in hell! And then he prays to himself, Thank you God that I am not like that Bob Coy!. This is all speculativebut something I know all too well. My family loves Pastor Bob and his leadership and every week he led hundreds to our Savior. MLD wrote: I havent brought up Luther once. I am much more amil in my beliefs. I actually feel sorry for Bob. It is just people like we PhoenixPreacher-ites who dont follow the rules that leave. The inner circle or big givers got to have dinner with DC and BC. His gray goatee is neatly trimmed, and he wears a light-blue plaid shirt and expensive jeans.