said General Prayuth Chan-O-Cha in a televised speech. The family said a funeral on Friday would be a private party to celebrate her life. Burmese migrant workers crossing the Thai-Myanmar friendship bridge in the bordertown Mae Sot, Thailand. That is the last time he is seen on camera. I'm not even following that rabbit hole because all I had to read was Porsche Girl, I've seen it before and it's bad Just to clarifyshe was NOT a dui. Check r/crimescene - the two most disturbing on that was i) Little boy decapitated by his father in a murder suicide and ii) the British girl raped and murdered in Thailand. Elise went 1.5 miles (2.5km) through the jungle to Tanote Bay and took a room at the Poseidon Resort where she booked another ticket for Bangkok leaving on April 24. But they were found innocent by an all white jury. It was just straight up sped that killed her. oof. Have a story or an anonymous news tip for CEO? "Thai courts make little allowance for the feelings of relatives," he said. They think our country is beautiful and safe and they can do whatever they want, wear bikinis wherever they like, the prime minister said. Today I was contacted by the son of Dave Tarnowski. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: Imperial House, 2nd Floor, 40-42 Queens Road, Brighton, East Sussex, BN1 3XB, Taking a break or withdrawing from your course, http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/thailand-police-parade-burmese-killers-of-hannah-witheridge-and-david-miller-in-front-of-cameras-on-koh-tao-30635263.html, http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2014-10-03/funeral-of-murdered-leeds-university-student/, Official Imperial College 2023 Undergraduate Applicants Thread. Toxic trauma expert Gabor Mate diagnoses Prince Harry with attention deficit disorder but tells him it CAN 'I felt different to the rest of my family - and my mum felt the same': Prince Harry opens up on his 'broken 'He's completely beige drained of all his feisty ginger life-blood': JULIE BURCHILL'S verdict on Prince 'I was a bit of a mess': Amanda Abbington reveals she considered suicide after split from ex Martin Freeman DR ELLIE CANNON: My breast has not got lumps but it's itchy, should I be concerned about cancer at age 72? Elise's mother Michele van Egten says she does not believe the Thai police's version of events amid fears authorities are working to suppress speculation about the many murders on the island. The body had to be identified using dental records and previous X-rays. The fact that there are a lot of people out there who still somehow defend them is even more unbelievable. All rights reserved. Most topics are about Bangkok and Pattaya because of their larger populations of expatriates and tourists in those cities, but this is for all things Thai. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Hannah Witheridge & David Miller. Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo (also known as Win Zaw Htun). Here at Cosmo we'll be respecting the wishes of Hannah's family tomorrow, and whether it's celebrity naked photos, horrific hostage videos in Iraq and Syria or grossly inappropriate crime scene photos we'll be steering well clear of these images if we see them shared online. Bernd had also recently separated from his wife, Oey, a Koh Tao native, with whom he had a seven-year-old daughter, Bene, who had been living for the last two years with his sister, Monica, in Germany. Those images are shocking because Till is barely recognizable as a human. She was said to have died of natural causes after mixing antibiotics she was taking for a chest infection with alcohol. by Soi Dog Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:35 am, Post She was also part of the Sathya Sai Baba cult and lived with a self-proclaimed 'guru'. Copyright The Student Room 2023 all rights reserved. The Student Room and The Uni Guide are both part of The Student Room Group. Hannah Witheridge & David Miller: British backpackers murdered in Thailand 2014. If we haven't already, we should delete the crime scene photo previously posted in a "spoiler", out of respect to the family's wishes. They followed the animal and discovered that it had been feeding on Elise's remains, which were found among rocks behind the Tanote Family Bay Resort. In August 2020, Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo had their death sentences commuted to life in prison to commemorate King Vajiralongkorn's birthday and to show his "clemency". The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. Miss Witheridge's family said "senseless" photos of the crime scene had added to their agony. Officers have taken the details of the fishing boats moored off the islands Sairee Beach on the island of Koh Tao. The police quickly closed the inquiry, stating that he had drowned whilst swimming. 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Ms Horton, from Cardiff, was attacked by two Thai fishermen, Bualoi Posit, 23, and Wichai Somkhaoyai, 24, who had spent the evening drinking and swam ashore after watching porn. Its a farce.. Part of the Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday & Metro Media Group, Ukraine soldiers shoot down enemy drones with drones of their own, Wheel of Fortune contestant answers food puzzle wrong, Pavement where disabled woman gestured at cyclist before fatal crash, Pro-Ukrainian drone lands on Russian spy planes exposing location, 'Buster is next!' Police say it could be of a witness to the double murder, a suspect or of Miss Witheridge herself. The economy of the island is almost exclusively centered on tourism, especially scuba diving. There is a suggestion Mr Miller was coming to her aid when he was also killed. -, Press J to jump to the feed. British Bricklayer Luke Miller, 26, was found at the bottom of a swimming pool at the Sunset Bar at Sairee Beach on January 6, 2016. Although both of his hands were tied behind the back, the police said he could have done this himself as the rope was tied to one hand and a loop was made so the other hand could be inserted. A royal commutation does not require an admission of guilt. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Aran Klaewklong, a security guard from Big Blue Diving shop, told police he found a mobile phone, clothes, a hotel key, shoes and an ID on the beach at 1.30 am during a beach patrol. I definitely don't think I could handle actually seeing them. On 15 September, the bodies of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were found on Sairee Beach on the island of Koh Tao, between 4 and 5 am, a few hours after their deaths.Both victims had been hit several times on the head; Witheridge had been raped, and Miller had been drowned. Rex Features. Their bodies were found at 6am. RME8CHF9 - Mae Sot, Thailand. Replies analysing and speculating over the mystery and possible explanations are encouraged. Thailand beach murders: Hannah Witheridge's family beg for removal of graphic crime scene images circulating online Oct 08, 2014 16:49 By Andy Lines Photos showing the battered bodies of Hannah, 23, and David Miller, 24, emerged soon after news of their murders. I remember seeing the pics 12 years ago and being horrified but I kept going back to look again . When the bodies of British tourists 23-year-old Hannah Witheridge and 24-year-old David Miller were found brutally murdered on the remote Thai island of Koh Tao, the police immediately concluded that the killer had to be a foreigner, as a Thai person couldn't be capable of such brutality. This is a terrific answer. While police ruled out foul play, Nick's family, who say officers did not investigate a single witness, believe he was murdered. The Student Room and The Uni Guide are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd. Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. Do you know this baby? Thai police take DNA swabs and footprints of migrant workers yards from the scene of the murder of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller on the island of Koh Tao in Thailand. September 20: Investigators now say there is no evidence to suggest Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were together on the day they died, with CCTV footage showing Mr Miller walking alone at around 1am. Doubts lingered over the conviction of two migrant Burmese workers for the rape and murders, Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo (also known as Win Zaw Htun). Thai police have been criticised for leading a chaotic investigation into the deaths of David Miller and Hannah Witheridge in which the line of inquiry has changed several times. Thai police yesterday were measuring the feet of bar and restaurant staff after examining footprints left in sand near where the victims' bodies were discovered, Workers were forced to hold up signs with their names and a number on it as officials took their feet size and DNA n what has been branded a 'joke' by local people. The Koh Tao murders involved the death of two British tourists in Thailand in 2014. After the attack they swam to their boat and boasted to their colleagues. Hannah was raped before she was killed. British woman, Christina Annesley, 23, was found in a room at the In Touch Resort on Jan 21, 2015. When is Eurovision and how do you get tickets? We earn a commission for products purchased through some links in this article. David Miller & Hannah Witheridge murdered on Thailand Island, Re: David Miller & Hannah Witheridge murdered on Thai Island, http://www.bestgore.com/murder/british- -raped-05/, http://www.bestgore.com/murder/british- -raped-01/, http://www.nationmultimedia.com/nationa 43997.html, http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news es-4402767, http://www.mizzima.com/opinion/intervie to-his-son, Epstein's island: dubbed by locals as Pedophile Island and Orgy Island. (Pics), South Africans turn to Phnom Penh private investigator Declan Miller to get home, It is currently Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:56 am. Eight days later locals living near Tanote Bay found Elise's body after becoming suspicious of a monitor lizard going back and forth into the jungle. Only if they are not beautiful. He later apologized, saying that he meant only that foreign visitors should be careful. Lining people along the beach, they measured their feet in order to make a comparison to footprints left in the sand near the murdered Brits' bodies. Hannah was a fun, vibrant and beautiful young woman who will be sorely missed by all who knew her. Thailand is Cambodia's neighbor to the West, and this forum is dedicated to Thai news, stories, reviews, blogs, videos, Thai people and anything else related to the country. Or is Koh Tao just unlucky for visitors or is there something more sinister happening on the beautiful Thai island and haven for Scuba divers? He was last night accused of smearing a murdered British backpacker to protect his countrys tourism industry. September 16: DNA samples taken from the scene do not match those of any of a reported 12 suspects. "Time makes the pain of this horrendous tragedy no easier to bear," they said in a statement. the above report about the "son" sounds much too much like a "closing in" on the culprits. They did not seal the island, contaminated the crime scene and now have allowed these boats to get away. The following morning the family raised the alarm when Nick failed to answer the door. For a Computer Science course at University of Leeds, was there an interview? Im asking if they wear bikinis in Thailand, will they be safe? She made sure everyone on the nation had a chance to see what had happened to her son. A woman Povse had been interested in said he had called her twice on the phone that night but she had not picked up because she had been asleep. I took your advice and read up on it instead of looking at the photos and I'm still disturbed. There were no signs he was suicidal. I just warned that sometimes people have to be careful today Thailand is safe except there are some bad guys - like anywhere in the world.'. When will the Beast from the East be at YOUR door? Police have so far failed to tie anyone to the murders, David Miller (left) may have been trying to help Hannah Witheridge (right) as she was being attacked by a group on the Thai island of Koh Tao last Sunday, new evidence suggests, Police are hunting this man filmed running frantically away from the beach on the night of the murders, Another added: This is the latest in a series of bungles in this investigation. International experts criticized the DNA testing done by the hospital at the time with claims that samples were tampered with in order to falsely incriminate two Burmese workers. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Traumatizing. At least eleven European tourists have died or disappeared there since 2014 and it is now described as Death Island or Murder Island. He had been dead about 10 days and had left to go snorkeling alone on November 8. I click the link and it just gives me the wow such empty message. The family of a woman murdered in Thailand have been "traumatised" by photos being circulated online. Read about our approach to external linking. Jeffrey Epstein's island is becoming a tourist attraction in the Caribbean here's what the Wonder if anyone here can help. At 7.47pm David and his friend Chris Ware were filmed walking towards the bar. On February 16, 2015, Russian tourist Valentina Novozhyonova, 23, vanished from her hostel on Koh Tao. However, a lawyer for Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo told the BBC that the pair had not admitted their guilt when their death sentences were commuted. 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Police in Thailand investigating the murder of two British backpackers suspect they were killed by two fishermen who then fled in a boat as CCTV images showing the couples last fateful movements in Koh Tao came to light last night. Nick's mother Tracy Pearson, told Derby and South Derbyshire Coroner's Court in the U.K., she had "a gut feeling there was foul play". by potty Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:48 am, Post Following criticism for the way the case has been handled, police are now working with detectives from Scotland Yard. Despite claims of a fall, he had no broken bones. Absolutely brutal murder but I think they have the wrong people. September 19: Thai officials collect DNA samples from workers in bars and restaurants in Koh Tao. She allowed Jet magazine to print pictures of his dead body. While Thai police are still investigating their deaths (the Burmese migrant workers, Zaw Lin and Win Zaq Htun, both 21, who previously confessed have now withdrawn their confessions) shocking photos of the backpackers' bodies are now circulating online, leaving their loved ones understandably horrified and disgusted. Derby coroner Louise Pinder said there was not enough evidence to say how he died and recorded an open verdict. TSR Community Awards 2022 - VOTING NOW OPEN! https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/world/asia/thailand-koh-tao-death-island.html#:~:text=But%20among%20some%20foreigners%2C%20Koh,began%20calling%20it%20Death%20Island.&text=She%20accused%20the%20police%20of,up%20crime%20on%20the%20island. Pol Lt Gen Thanate Pinmuangngam, acting chief of Police Region 8, said In the Dallemagne case, the cause of death was suffocation. It has a population of around 1,500 people and the main settlement is Ban Mae Hat. "We beg that Hannah and David are afforded privacy and dignity through the removal of these pointless and insensitive reminders," they said. DO NOT go in blind. Hannah's funeral will take place on Friday I have never had the courage to look. Dunno if this is what your looking for but emmet till. She had checked into the hostel on February 11 and was due to check out on February 16, but failed to do so. It was later revealed the couple in the images were not Miss Witheridge and Mr Miller. The two men were convicted and sentenced in 2015 and the verdict was upheld by an appeals court in 2017 and the Supreme Court in August 2019. PLEASE read up on the case first before looking for the leaked photos. Police said that DNA semen samples taken from Hannahs body were from two men, both Asian. Evidence suggests the brave 24-year-old put up a fight before his death and that he was drowned. The crime's brutality amid Koh Tao's insular, backpacker charm caused an international sensation and threatened to further weaken a tourist industry already reeling from the military coup of . The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. We are furious that we have not been able to have an approved independent forensic examination.". We hope you'll do the same? Putting names to archive photos, The children left behind in Cuba's mass exodus, In photos: India's disappearing single-screen cinemas. The commissioner visited the murder scene yesterday but his officers were criticised after smiling and taking selfies. Can I ride an elevator while someone is sleeping inside? Are there serial killers operating on the island, with their crimes apparently insufficiently investigated so that the tourist industry remains protected? Koh Tao ''Turtle Island'' or Ko Tao is an island in Thailand and is part of the Chumphon Archipelago on the western shore of the Gulf of Thailand. Yikes. Investigators had no theory to explain her unexpected stopover on Koh Tao on her way back to the mainland and the capital Bangkok. Police believe that, just like in her murder, the two latest victims may have been killed by fishermen who swam ashore in order to target foreigners. His body was found at the beach at the Hillside Resort on Koh Tao, on January 1, 2014. "Hannah was a fun, vibrant and beautiful young woman who will be sorely missed by all who knew her.". Police recovered the body and took it to the neighboring island of Koh Phangan. We beg that Hannah and David are afforded privacy and dignity through the removal of these pointless and insensitive reminders. 2023 BBC. Hannah and a friend were spotted on CCTV walking down the main strip of Koh Tao towards Choppers bar at 7pm on Sunday. Thailand beach murders: Hannah Witheridge's family beg for removal of graphic crime scene images circulating online Photos showing the battered bodies of Hannah, 23, and David Miller, 24, emerged . Stephen handed prison time over Georgia sex tape, Finding Michael: What happened to Michael Matthews, Alex Murdaugh has been found guilty of murder, Constance Marten charged with manslaughter, Physical 100 contestant accused of assault, Tory MP says families are 'abusing' food banks, Harry and Meghan react to eviction from Frogmore, The legal age you can get married has just changed, Charles & Camilla break major royal tradition, Pictures of Thai murder victim Hannah Witheridge's body circulate on the Internet, Cosmopolitan, Part of the Hearst UK Fashion & Beauty Network. Police major general, Surachate Hakparn, said in an interview that the police have cracked down on crime syndicates on Koh Tao since the backpackers double killing. They beat Ms Horton, raped her, and threw her into the sea where she drowned. Pathologist Dr. Michael Biggs told the hearing that there were many injuries on Nick's body, including to the head, limbs, and face. Cambodia Expats Online is the most popular community in the country. I work in digital forensics so I've seen a ton of NSFL stuff and thought I was pretty numb. Here, a breakdown of the investigation shows how the frantic hunt for backpackers' killers has unfolded. A judge found the workers guilty and sentenced them to death despite questions about DNA evidence and the police handling of the case. The last known video footage of the Russian woman showed her walking to Chaloke Hin Kao bay and never coming back. "The past three weeks have been unimaginably difficult and there are no words that can adequately describe the heartache and despair that our family is experiencing. The Emmett Till case was one of the most disgusting miscarriages of justice in American history. But many cases appear very suspicious according to family members and insufficiently investigated. Friends told police that Hannah, from Great Yarmouth, and David, from Jersey, left the club together between 3am and 4am. The family has contested the police version of events. Murdaugh is heckled as he leaves court, Missing hiker buried under snow forces arm out to wave to helicopter, Incredible footage of Ukrainian soldiers fighting Russians in Bakhmut, Fleet-footed cop chases an offender riding a scooter, Two Russian tanks annihilated with bombs by Ukrainian armed forces, Isabel Oakeshott clashes with Nick Robinson over Hancock texts, Dozens stuck in car park as staff refuses to open gate for woman, Insane moment river of rocks falls onto Malibu Canyon in CA. Elise had been traveling around Asia for two years, and before her death had been living at a yoga and tantra retreat on Koh Phangan. But they have another dark side to them. His mother decided to have an open coffin for him so everyone could see what had been done to him and it changed the thinking of America at the time. Oh Yes, this one is gruesome . Read about our approach to external linking. Samui Times defended its reporting in an online post. So sad though! At the time of the murders last Monday morning, ten boats were lying offshore. The investigation of the Witheridge and Miller slayings was widely criticized as the crime scene was not properly secured, and questions were also raised about subsequent DNA testing. The last pictures - on night backpackers beaten to death: New CCTV revealed as Thai police investigate copycat killing theory. Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Norfolk and David Miller, 24, from Jersey had been murdered on the holiday island of Koh Tao. Me too :' ( she was almost unrecognizable. Island authorities sued the online news site for violating the Computer Crime Act, which outlaws uploading false information online. I dont know if the killers are still on the island. The family claimed the circumstances surrounding his death and the local police's refusal to co-operate with them have led them to believe the death is "suspicious". After weeks of investigations, Thai Police have arrested three Burmese man in relation to the murder of two British tourists David Miller and Hannah Witheridge on the holiday island of Koh Tao.The Burmese migrant worker community is on high . Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were found close to bungalows where they had been staying, Thai police say two men have confessed to killing Hannah Witheridge and David Miller, Koh Tao is a popular destination for tourists, Harry: I always felt different to rest of family, Chris Rock talks Oscars slap in live Netflix show, Everything Everywhere wins big ahead of Oscars, PM to end asylum claims from small boat arrivals, Mbappe breaks PSG goal record in win over Nantes, US-made cheese can be called 'gruyere' - court. Supposedly these are the first crime scene photos ever taken. 'I didn't intend to insult or criticise anyone. Edit: ah, I didnt realise you said crime scene photos, these were photos taken at the funeral. by potty Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:47 am, Post "Life is too important to take seriously.". Really gross. The bodies of Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Hemsby, and David Miller, 24, from Jersey, were found on a Koh Tao beach. But among some foreigners, Koh Tao has taken on a more sinister reputation. Today, we have gotten rid of them.. Official: Queen's University Belfast A100 2023 Entry, I'm withdrawing my Uni application 2 days before the uni interview, should I say some. Nick Pearson, 25, was found floating in an island bay, at the foot of a 50ft drop by scuba divers in the sea after he disappeared following a night out with his family on New Year's Eve. We have some new leads but we dont have any new suspects.. Later, police released CCTV footage which they claimed showed the students walking hand-in-hand down a street. Hannah Witheridge was seen walking through Koh Tao with a group of friends - all of whom are thought to be British - just hours before being brutally murdered, The 23-year-old is thought to have been out with two girls and two boys after Mr Miller returned to his hotel room at around 1am, David Miller was seen separately from different cameras. A scuffed copy of the Koran. They were acts of extreme barbarity. Earlier Thai Prime Minister said it girls wearing bikinis on the holiday island of Koh Tao were not safe unless they were ugly. It's crazy that the wikipedia page for the Ripper has this picture on it. They say traces of at least one man's DNA has been found on Miss Witheridge's body. Thai police efforts are blasted a 'joke' by residents as officials admit they are looking for 'multiple' suspects but do not know how many. Deaths have been explained away by the authorities as unfortunate accidents or suicides. It is claimed Miss Witheridge encountered her attackers, had a conversation with them and may have even shared a cigarette with them before being dragged to her death. Could you please describe them? Their semi-naked bodies were discovered on the beach near rocks only 100 yards from the scene of the party. Phone records showed that Elise called her mother on Skype on April 17, 2017, before leaving Koh Phangan on a Ferry on April 19. Coincidentally, pictures of Bernd with a snake were to be found online. A British male, thought to have known the two, was named as a person of interested and hunted by police after allegedly fleeing the island on an early ferry for Bangkok. Hannah Witheridge seen looking relaxed and wandering streets with . The investigation of the Witheridge and Miller slayings was widely criticized as the crime scene was not properly secured, and questions were also raised about subsequent DNA testing. by General Mackevili Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:12 am, Post Never seen anything like it': Medics and care workers hits back at Matt Hancock by revealing Rishi Sunak told Matt Hancock that Dominic Cummings' time in Downing Street was 'a nightmare', new WhatsApp Madonna's Skid Row brother: For years the superstar, 64, was accused of shunning him. They still maintain their innocence, as they did throughout the trial. From the beginning, the Thai police had difficulty securing the crime scene. Can women ever trust the Met Police again? Can they be safe in bikinis unless they are not beautiful?. In a police interview Mr Ware told officers that David then told him he was going out to get some cigarettes but another friend revealed he went instead to nightclub AC to meet up with Hannah and her friend Emma Madeline. Hannah Witheridge and David Miller koh tao, Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo koh tao, dimitri povse koh tao, christina annesley koh tao, Valentina Novozhyonova koh tao, luke miller koh tao, Elise Dallemagne koh tao, Bernd grotsch koh tao, Alexandr Bucspun koh tao, The mysterious Koh Tao - Death Island in Paradise, Exclusive members-only articles on StrangeOutdoors.com, The coroner concluded there was not enough evidence to say where or how he met his death. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. After what must have been an incomprehensibly painful month for the families of Hannah and David, the fact that painfully graphic not to mention wholly unnecessary photos of their bodies are being shared online is difficult to understand, particularly given that questions are yet to be answered about what exactly lead to their deaths.